Politics, justice equality liberty. --- .See also: Philosophy, ethics, justice and equality and freedom. --- 12/30/2000
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- .This section is about justice, equality and liberty. Topics include: ( ) Justice. ( ) Equality. ( ) Liberty. --- 1/24/2006
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- (1) 100% liberty = anarchy. 100% equality = communism (ideally). (2) Is 100% equality or 100% liberty possible? No. Is 100% equality or 100% liberty equal to justice? No. (3) Six combinations. Do we curtail liberty for the sake of justice? Sometimes. Do we curtail liberty for the sake of equality? Do we curtail justice for the sake of liberty? Do we curtail justice for the sake of equality? Do we curtail equality for the sake of liberty? Do we curtail equality for the sake of justice? --- 9/4/1998
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- (1) Are freedom and equality related variables, where a change in one necessitates a change in the other? If so, are freedom and equality directly proportional so that as one increases the other increases? Or are freedom and equality inversely proportional so that an increase in one results in a decrease in the other? (2) If freedom and equality are not directly related then the following four situations can exist: (A) High levels of equality and high levels of freedom. (B) High levels of equality and low levels of freedom. (C) Low levels of equality and high levels of freedom. (D) Low levels of equality and low levels of freedom. (3) What other basic social values are there beside equality and freedom? --- 12/30/2000
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- (1) Arguing between more freedom vs. less freedom. (2) Arguing between more equality and less equality. --- 4/13/2000
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- (1) Describing lack of freedom as a lack of equality. (2) Describing lack of equality as a lack of freedom. --- 3/5/2002
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- (1) Liberty and equality are about the good (ethics). (2) Human rights include both basic freedoms and basic equalities. (3) 100% freedom and 100% equality are both bad. There has to be a balance between freedom and equality. (4) The jungle gives us 100 percent freedom. In civilization we don't live by the law of the jungle. Civilization reduces freedoms in the name of the good (ethics). --- 4/20/2000
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- (1) One hundred percent freedom equals anarchy, equals no government and no laws, equals law of the jungle, and the result is injustice, murder, assault. One hundred percent freedom, defined as anarchy, is not good. Also, one hundred percent freedom is non-existent in that all societies have some form of law and government. (2) One hundred percent equality equals everyone getting the same amount of money, stuff, rights, opportunities. A planned economy. Same law for all people. One hundred percent determinism by law. One hundred percent equality, defined as totalitarianism, is not good. --- 2/15/2005
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- (1) Should we curtail justice to get more liberty? No. (2) Should we curtail justice to get more equality? No. (3) Should we curtail liberty to get justice? Yes, sometimes. For example, you are not free to murder. (4) Should we curtail equality to get justice? Yes, sometimes. For example, you are not equal to the point of communism. (5) Should we curtail liberty for the sake of equality? Sometimes. (6) Should we curtail equality for the sake of liberty? Sometimes. --- 7/25/2006
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- (1)(A) A society in which everyone is 100% free to do whatever they like is not a just society because some people would take advantage of others by murder, rape, etc. (B) A society in which everyone is 0% free (I.e., no one is free. I.e., no freedom.) is unjust because every action, word and though would be controlled by the government or corporations or some other person or group. Everyone would be predetermined, even though everyone would not necessarily be the same. (2)(A) In a society in which everyone is 100% equal everyone would be exactly the same. Identical. Same physical and mental abilities. Same bodies. Same minds. Same thoughts. Same experiences. Same people. Same jobs. Same everything. A society in which everyone is 100% equal is not possible because people are different. A society in which everyone is 100% equal is not a just society because there are some areas in which people have a right to differ. For example, people have a right to hold different views from other people. (B) A society in which everyone is 0% equal (I.e., there is no equality) is not a just society because there are areas in which all humans have a right to be the same. For example, there are basic human rights which everyone deserves to have. --- 9/5/2004
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- Are freedom and equality two different and distinct values? Or is one an expression of the other? For example, is equality simply a term used to describe the amount of freedom in a society? Or is freedom simply a term used to measure the amount of equality in a society? When some people discuss equality they try to reduce it to matters of freedom. When some people discuss freedom they try to reduce it to matters of equality. --- 7/16/2000
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- Equality. (1) Equality of money. (2) Equality of free time (maximum work time). (3) Equality of stuff (food and shelter). (4) Equality of access to information. PART TWO. How easy would it be to give everyone a minimum level of money, time, stuff and information? --- 8/21/2004
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- Equality. (1) Equality of opportunity: all get same start. (2) Equality of distribution: everyone gets same amount all the way through. (3) Equality of dessert: you get what you worked for. This might work in a non-money self-subsistence system, but in a money system, especially a wage system, how can you really tell what you earned? You could be under or over paid. (4) Equality of need: you get only what you need. Ex. Growing family gets more. Who can tell? --- 08/24/1994
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- Equality. Forms of equality: (1) Equal taxes taken by government from all. (2) Equal benefits given by government to all. (3) Equal chances or opportunity in life. --- 12/30/1996
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- Equality. If you say, "Everyone should be free.", then you are asking for equality of freedom. Or, if you say, "Everyone should be equally free.", then you are asking for equality of freedom. --- 9/7/2005
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- Equality. We are all equal in that we (should) all have equal rights under the law. --- 5/30/1998
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- Formulas for justice. (1) Justice = equality + freedom. The democrats tend to believe in more equality and less freedom. The conservatives tend to believe in more freedom and less equality. --- 4/13/2000
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- Freedom (liberty) and equality are about power (i.e. politics, i.e. social ethics). Total freedom means no one and nothing has power over you, i.e. you have total power. Total equality means everyone has the same types and degrees of power. --- 12/30/1995
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- Freedom is an easy sell because it is saying, "Yes, go ahead, you are free to do it." Limiting someone's freedom in the name of equality and justice is more difficult for some people to understand because it involves saying, "No, you are not free to do that because it is unjust." --- 11/18/2005
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- Guaranteeing human rights to all is an exercise in equality more than freedom. As the list of human rights grows the realm of equality grows. --- 12/30/2003
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- Having liberty curtailed unnecessarily in the name of justice is no fun. --- 9/5/1998
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- However, some freedoms are ruled out. There is no freedom to lynch because lynching is unethical. The history of civilization shows a pattern of humans coming to realize that some actions are unethical and should be outlawed. First murder, then slavery, then segregation, each was recognized as unethical and outlawed. If the pattern continues, in the future we may decide that more things are unethical and should be outlawed. The point being that law is good and has a purpose. Those who say we should have no laws are incorrect. The second point is that we limit certain freedoms because they are unethical. Those who say we should have 100% freedom are incorrect. --- 4/16/2000
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- If you believe in human rights (equality for all), then that takes precedence over total liberty. --- 9/30/1998
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- Justice does not equal freedom alone. Justice does not equal equality alone. Justice is more important than both freedom alone and equality alone. Justice is a mix of freedom and equality. --- 4/26/2002
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- Justice is an ideal. We can only call its opposite injustice. Justice is a term as ineffable as good or right. At least we can describe liberty and equality. --- 9/5/1998
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- Justice, types of. (1) Interpersonal justice. Justice between people. (2) Intrapersonal justice. Did I do myself justice today? --- 6/8/2004
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- Justice. (1) Justice defined as law enforcement. vs. (2) Justice defined as an ethical society. (3) Justice is not only about balancing liberty and equality, there is more to it. What are the components of justice? --- 4/26/2002
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- Justice. Three definitions of justice. (1) Freedom balanced against equality yields justice. (2) Preventing and prosecuting crime yields justice. What is crime but excess freedom trampling equality? So this second view of justice is just a specification of the first. (3) In economic terms, freedom as capitalism is balanced against equality as communitarianism to achieve justice. --- 3/11/2000
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- Some see justice as 100% liberty. Some see justice as 100% equality. Some see justice as 50/50. I see justice as 100% ecological sustainability. --- 9/5/1998
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- To ensure that any given freedom is available to all citizens is an exercise in equality. --- 8/20/2003
Politics, justice equality liberty. --- When you say you want to be as free as the next person, you are talking about equality of freedom. --- 10/14/2003